Those bad boys are stated to be one single unit per army, having the firepower in excess of most armies and they aren´t limited by the population of robots. During the war, the USA had 132 million citizen as it population, and at 1945, 8,267,958 soldiers were enlisted in the US army, or around 6,2 % of the population to be put in the frontlines, but the total of personal put outside of the economy to work towards the war effort was 12,209,238, counting navy, marines, and coast guard, or 9,2% of the population. Army starting experience can be increased by +100 by each of the following: Orbital bombardment occurs when a fleet is in orbit around a hostile planet, and is generally a precursor to invasion. This fits Paradox’s usual pattern of dropping free content along with paid content, a model I think is quite fair. But that isn't the strongest biological soldiers that the UNE could produce. Still, once an entire civilization coalesced into a single individual, a single unit of unparalleled power, it could range from massive battleships, a warform-size killing machine to a person-size robot. This is around that number cubed. Gene Warriors (including the Alpha Gene Warrior): 40 million per army, armed with 1,7 gigatons of cutting edge wargear, at 1,32 billion soldiers at 15,6% mobilization. Now, let's go back to the UNE because their scientists made an archaeological breakthrough and they found the Cybrex Alpha and found a Cybrex war forge. This time would shrink against enemies that can think faster than a regular human, against gene warriors, it would be around 0,2-0,5 seconds and against robots, even if they could be predicted, they couldn't read the 1s and 0s at an useful time frame. I saw some people suggesting to transfer the system to a weak nation and then declaring war on them, or you could just land a ton of armies on the planet and eat the energy/mineral costs. Armies not engaged in combat will be placed a row behind the fighting armies and replace any killed army. As armies fight battles they will increase in rank, improving their stats based on their experience points. That doesn't mean much in terms of actual numbers, because 40k titans are as large as plot demands, but the most solid numbers that I could find to use tells that the warlords are as tall as 200 meters. Battle Frame armies are described as large and bipedal robots that have a more organic tactical mind, faster and more agile than they should look and thus, are able to improvise and are able to pull off some incredible tactics in war. About the fire power, the only thing we have to make any type of estimative are their mass, and this thing is more than half the mass of a Game-Start Corvette, and probably have a equal if not more firepower than a corvette, because the tech cost (5000) is lower than tier V Lasers (4000). Those that follow the Psionic ascension path can get a giant Psionic Avatar from Shroud events. In total, this warform brings us 10.5 – 21 Army strength with all the non empire-specific gameplay bonus and around 7.50 - 15.00 at base value. The closest thing I could think that we have weight to compare are Warlord Titans (40k) at the , those warlord titans mass up to 2,5 megatons, the Mega-Warform is around 1.800 times more massive than that, and by the square cube law, 12,1 times larger. An empire can recruit armies of any species that is present within its borders, as long as there are members of that species living on the planet which the army is recruited from. 1- Calculating based on the size of the slugs. Genocidal empires can even opt to skip the invasion entirely and simply exterminate all life on the surface. And the stars of the day, the absolute units, the weapons of true devastations, the Mega-Warforms. This is detailed enough that it should go into the stellaris forums if its mot already there. Assault armies: 40 million per army equipped with 567 megatons of wargear, with 15,6% mobilization limit, 1,32 billion soldiers. Both are known to have only basic levels of sentience, and thus, the difference isn´t how smart each individual titanic soldier is, but maybe, how big they are. Contrary of the train size slugs, the titanic life forms are not a single species, and because only some the more humanoid creatures (most of the sentient life in stellaris fit in the classical definition of humanoid, 2 arms, 2 legs, one head, walking upright etc etc), or at least those with free arms, would be used as soldiers, and because we know that some actually want to be enlisted into the military … It could survive 93-186 attacks from itself as well. Orbital bombardment causes damage to any defensive army but also Devastation. Planet Devastation is reduced monthly by 0.5% as long as the planet is no longer bombarded or invaded. We know that the Azizians have 20 tons in weight, that is 4x more mass than the heaviest land animal alive, the African Elephant, massing around 4.9 tons, by the square cube law, the azizians are around 40-50% larger than those animals, around 5,46 meters, we know that they much larger than that because of their slug like anatomy, and slugs are generally 10-20 cm long and 0,5 cm tall, propotionaly, this is a creature of 100 to 218 meters long. The type of army recruited depends on the pop working the building that spawns them. It takes around 4000 newtons of force to break an arm, if we are taking an arm made of the carbon nanocomposite, you would need around 80 kilonewtons, (around 8 tons of force) to break this arm. Even if cut off from their interstellar supply lines, they can still recycle/manufacture their equipment and heal their soldiers to battle readiness in days. The theoretical maximum force of a Gene Warrior army, lets call them Alpha gene warriors (Robust,Erudite,Very Strong,Resilient and Repugnant/or/Robust Erudite Very Strong and Wasteful.) It could survive 93-186 shots from itself. Even if you would need mobile factories and to build/recycle everything that you army might need to wadge war planet-side, the army would have more than enough to maintain their war for years. "Are we the Baddies?" By mass, we know that human bones are actually 5x stronger than steel, whiles nanotubes of carbon are around 100x as stronger than steel per mass. Where did you get the population numbers for the UNE? Defense armies do not cause Collateral Damage. Hitting the enemy at 3.16 -6.3 damage and 2.25 - 4.50 at base, those creatures are also limited by the amount of mechanical pops, and thus, are safe to say that they are at the same numbers as a regular biological army. That means that the gene warrior army have exactly the same numbers as an assault army, 40 million Gene Warriors per army. This page was last edited on 18 November 2020, at 23:13. This theoretical Alpha soldier is killing the enemy at 5.40 - 10.80 , or 360% more efficient than the regular soldier. At the lowest end, that means UNE´s armies have 693 million soldiers as it limits in 01/01/2200 or 2.08 pops. Advanced armies (probable to gain access to one or three eventually). Thx, that is the culmination of other three of my posts and i have at least more 2 planned to Go. Orbital Bombardment Damage dealt to enemy planets can be increased by the following: Orbital Bombardment Damage taken from enemy fleets can be reduced by the following: This article has been verified for the current PC, https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Land_warfare&oldid=51741, Only available to the Enigmatic Observers Fallen Empire, Only available to the Ancient Caretakers Fallen Empire, Biological (psionic if Utopia is installed), Does not bomb planets with no armies on it, If the last pop is killed, the planet becomes a, Does not cause Terror Bombing opinion if succesfully abducted. The United Kingdom, that was involved in the war since its first year, had mobilized around 22% of its metropolitan population, to be put outside the economy and in direct war effort. After clicking a planet, you will find a Tab named "ARMIES". For an … Each pop can supply the human capital necessary to one pop at the maximum mobilization. Armies without species like Xenomorph Army are unlimited as well. While they are stronger one-for-one than assault armies, their static nature means that investment is necessary to fend off a concentrated attack. Armies get +2 experience points each time they deal damage and +1 when they take damage. Consuming that level of food would give a gene warrior a few hundred max force punches, capable of running around for hours at max speed per day, and he would need to care for his energy reserves as carefully as an soldier would need to balance his ammo usage in a warzone, still, this guy punch is faster than an m1911 bullet, and probably could dodge and even outrun those shots. Titanic Beast Armies: Basically Godzilla brought his friends. 2- Calculating based on the mass of the slugs. And even if the transport ship is cut off from the empire, they still can recover their fighting force,their armies seem to not suffer from the lack of food and supplies when fighting planet-side, imagine the logistics to keep such a large force engaged in combat fully fed and supplied even if they were losing badly. Soo, a nanocomposite bone of 70% carbon nanotubes could be 20x stronger with the same mass as the regular bones. How many of them are actually in a army, I didn't find anyway to actually quantify, because we know that those lovely creatures can do more damage than an army of an Alpha Gene Warriors (5.40 - 10.80) with the same empire wide bonus, at 6.3 - 12.6 damage to the enemy (4.50 - 9.00 base), my estimative is between 17 to 32 million slugs in one army, considering their limited intelligence. Soo, a Xenomorph army is akin to several hiveminds of very intelligent/sentient beasts that are guided by scientist and supervisors to rip and tear their way into the enemy lines, and is possible that they are also using equipment or some kind of bio weaponry, and nothing really say that those things need to be the same size, they could be fly sized creatures that swarm the enemy in their trillions, hundreds of millions bulk monstrosities that rush into to the enemy lines , building size behemoths that are basically living tanks, or more plausibly, all of the above and more, soo numbers of troops are not really meaning anything, what does have meaning are their total biomass. This section of the Stellaris guide contains the most important information regarding army management and the availability of various types of military units.. Gene Warriors are also limited by population, their description says that they are usually taken from the elite of their military forces, but, as the assault army, the gene warriors also have a 1/1 ratio from the population at maximum numbers. If we translate this to an scenario without gameplay constraints, this warforms could resist 17,4-34,8 Exatons of force, it is actually more resistant than a corvette, and considering the tech diferente and evolution to reach the point to actually build such thing, and because we don´t know how much of those would be absorbed by hull, armor and shields of the thing. Yeah. So, its safe to say that with genetical improvements, you could see gene warriors using up to 90% of his total strength in combat scenarios, and actually be capable of trigger the 100% with some drug or combat stimulant if he needed. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. The late game crises in Stellaris he describes sound both awesome and terrifying, and they typically involve researching technology to the point where it becomes a major threat to organic life. An IQ of 600 would require that you be smarter than 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the population (according to this calculator). Generals are leaders who command armies and give them bonuses. And a gene soldier is more efficient in what he does than a regular assault troop, as it does more damage to the enemy than its counterpart, and considering the health, it can take 300 points more punishment than the regular warrior, I say more efficient because is plausible that a gene warrior is at the peak of human physical capabilities. Result: Constant loss of influence working on events where you can try to resolve the crisis by either sending the army, sending sexual offerings to them to stay away from the city, and a few more based on empire type. Wow. Defense armies are automatically recruited by certain buildings from the species working them and can be robotic or organic. To move a 20 kg arm at 356 m/s would require 302.7 Calories per punch, and if for fun we give him a classic chain sword (6 kg) and want him to hit someone at 356 m/s, that would cost around 2 average hamburgers per blow. However Generals, particularly at lower levels, may die during the fighting. CaptainShack and TheXpGamers Community take to the stars in Stellaris. At the highest end, that means that the UNE´s armies have 1.98 Billion soldiers, or almost 6 pops outside the economy as it limit in 01/01/2200. Fallen empire, other crisis and other guardian ships spawn as a box due to their appearance being tied to their graphical culture. Remember, all those robots are actually self sufficient in terms of energy, even if they cost energy credits, if you are at negative -1K of energy, they simply don't have a single debuff. Also in a scenario without gameplay constraints, if you cracked the world, and the Mega Warforms aren't actually being hit directly by the laser, they might actually survive planetary destruction , given how resilient such things are. The same treatment can be applied to the muscles of the candidates to Gene Warriors, nanocarbons aren´t just strong, but they are very flexible enough that can be infused with the muscles, the problem is that much more of the muscle is alive, so, could be problems with that, how much can be, so its everyone’s guess. Now let see the true walls of guns, the Slave, Clones and Xenomorph armies. Imagine being a genetically engineered super soldier, the absolute undisputed alpha of your entire species, then the enemy drops 8 sentient mountains from orbit to ruin your day. For comparison, there are only about 1080 atoms in the observable universe. 5) In the time it takes to train a single Gene Warrior army unit, I could train 12 clone armies. Is certain that this mix of musculature and nanocarbon tubes is could contract 40x faster than normal human muscles. It's all well and good until a few years later, when some of the titanic life get mad and attack. We don´t know, but probably it would make their body above the theoretical limit of baseline human force. Fucking hell I started reading this because it was interesting then I scrolled to see how long it was and Jesus Christ. Soo, how much stronger could the UNE makes a human bone of those Gene Soldiers? My garrison on the planet was overrun. And the entire WW2 killed 85 million persons in total. That’s a lot of numbers. In terms of energy, his brain alone would consume around 16k Calories per day considering that he is thinking at the same efficiency as a human brain, if we are also scaling that for his body, he alone would be consuming 80K calories per day just to function at peak condition. EDIT: I simply didn´t expect an post about the least fun aspect of war in stellaris would be that well recived, to all of those that gave the rewards and most importantly, pointed errors in the theory so it could evolve, Thank you. Less than the 80 minerals needed to build the transport ship. The base of our maximum force is our bones, so, if you increase the force your bones can endure, you could also increase the limit of the force you could apply. Assault armies have a Collateral Damage modifier that determines how fast they cause Planetary Devastation. Everything in this dev diary will be present in the newly-announced paidApocalypse expansion for Stellaris. If the right quest chains are followed, such a planet can even allow "Titanic Beasts" as recruitable armies (although in limited numbers). But, with gameplay constraints, a Mega Warform can endure at maximum 100-200 shots from itself. Bones aren´t just like bars inside you, and you can´t just open up a leg and replace it with a nice metal bar to make it stronger. That is just the manpower, and for equipment is more. You still is the bigger fish. The Hunter-killer armies still are at the same proportions and numbers of a standard army and strangely, they are limited by the robotic population, the most rational explanation is that they are actually refitting the common units into the hunter killers or just recycling them into those hunter killer drones, but even them, this limitation about the robots can be seen as just a gameplay constraint. Robotic Assault Armies: 40 millions per army, fearless, and it is equipped with 567 megatons of wargear, probably profited from the local robotic units, and thus, limited by population. Unlike Defense Armies, they are based in space and each recruited army will board a transport ship. However Generals, particularly at lower levels, may die during the fighting. We still have Titanic armies , the Azizians and the Titanic lifeforms. A medium of 15,6% of the population would be more reasonable, (9,2%+22%=29,7% , 29,7%/2=15,6%) putting the number of soldiers in 1,4 Billion soldiers ready to defend the universal rights of all sentient life. Each army has a morale value, and once morale drops low enough the army will be negatively affected with the following modifiers: Armies gain experience from combat and can rank up. Wars are not decided only in space. Gray: Will be by your side for the next 5000 years, immortal governor, ultra powerful warship (even if it isn't very high tech) and also can be transformed into a War form that can bring down a Cybrex Warform with ease in a 1 vs 1. This thing would weigh around 4,5 gigatons and still is able to walk amongst a battlefield, how fast those things would be, is hard to tell, but because they are able to fight around the globe, those things are considerably quicker than we could expect. level 2 Additionally, each research area has multiple subcategories, for a total of 12 such subcategories, and every tech belongs to one of these subcategories.The areas and their subcategories are as follows: Engineering research Physics research Society research Defense armies do not cause any. Homeworld has “Titanic Life” Planet Modifier Start game with one Mega-Warform army Unlocks Army Type: Mega-Warform Army Damage: +20% Cannot be removed or added after the start of the game. A type of planetary modifier is "Titanic Life", reflecting giant creatures that inhabit its biosphere. We know that the number of pops is related to the numbers of troops in one to one. When you land on a world with Titanic life on it, an option may appear to allow you to try and communicate with them. I appreciate the effort, but the whole section about IQ is complete nonsense. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. This creature is described as a titanic warrior and we know that the arcane powers of this creature can give the enemy army around 7.50 - 15.00 damage and with the empire wild bonus, 10.5-21.